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By Charlie Unkefer
Mount Shasta Area Newspapers
Wed Nov 12, 2008, 03:51 PM PST
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Mount Shasta, Calif. –
Forty concerned citizens met at the Flying Lotus Dance Studio in Mount Shasta on Nov. 5 to discuss PG&E’s weather modification program for southern Siskiyou County, which is scheduled to begin Nov. 15.
The proposed project, which involves cloud seeding over a region east of McCloud, has created a wave of local concern since PG&E first announced its intentions on Oct. 22. The short notice of the project, coupled with concerns over the environmental and health impacts, inspired the community conversation, which allowed those attending to ask questions and voice their opinions.
Featured speakers included Mount Shasta residents Angelina Cook, Joanna Welfley, and Miguel Mesa. Also present was Ric Costales, Siskiyou County’s Natural Resource Specialist, who fielded numerous questions and attempted to clarify the County’s position on the matter.
The science of cloud seeding
The issue at stake is a plan by P G & E to cloud seed a region east of McCloud, south of Medicine Lake, north of Burney and west of Big Valley. Cloud seeding is a process that involves injecting silver iodide aerosol into the atmosphere with the goal of creating higher precipitation rates in existing storm clouds. The added precipitation, says PG&E, will help promote the hydroelectric power generating capacity that exists in the McCloud and Pit River watersheds.
According to PG&E, residents can expect to see a 5-10% increase in winter precipitation in the target area. The program, which is scheduled to run through May 31, 2013, will occur only during the winter and early spring months, with the overall goal of increasing snow pack and run-off, as well as re-charging the springs, which contribute to river flows.
The meeting, which included a PowerPoint presentation titled the Empowered Citizens Report, addressed many questions and concerns that have been voiced since PG&E first announced its intentions. Included were questions over the toxicity of the seeding agent, silver iodide aerosol, as well as its potential effect on local and regional weather patterns. Many remained skeptical of PG&E’s plans to bio-engineer the local weather and expressed their doubts over the idea of altering something as fundamentally natural as the weather.
Natural Resource
Specialist responds
Ric Costales, Siskiyou County’s Natural Resource Specialist, addressed many audience questions and concerns. Since P G & E announced its plan, Costales, who began his position with the county just last December, has gone to great length to find out how the whole process came about. Prior to the Notice of Intention posted in the paper on Oct. 22, he knew nothing about the program.
Though Costales expressed regret about how the information was released and admits that, from the outset, it looks suspicious, he stressed that the county was not trying to pull anything over on the people of Siskiyou County, and that the program, as far as he can tell, has gone through all of the proper channels. He did express regret, however, that there was limited opportunity for the public to learn about the project and voice their concerns. I can assure that this would not have happened on my watch, Costales told the attentive audience.
He outlined the history of the project, noting that because the equipment necessary to conduct the operation is located on private land (owned by Sierra Pacific), an Environmental Impact Report is not required unless the home county chooses to pursue the matter. In January 2006, after reviewing the program and conferring with county and state agencies, Siskiyou County officials deemed the previously existing EIRs as sufficient.
Panel seeks answers
Though cloud seeding is not a new technology, with California projects dating back to 1948, many present expressed a lack of understanding about what it actually entails and wanted to know more.
Presenter Miguel Mesa emphasized that though he is concerned about the implications of spraying chemicals into the air, he is not going to make any hasty judgments. I’m willing to embrace science. I just want to know more, he stated.
Though PG&E asserts that its program has gone through rigorous environmental review and meets all environmental, health, and legal requirements, skeptics claim that comprehensive testing has been limited. The California Water Plan Update Draft 2009, a document prepared by the California Department of Water Resources, itself states, No complete and rigorous comprehensive study has been made of all California Precipitation Projects.
Meeting highlights
As stated in a follow-up e-mail circulated by the group, the key points expressed during the meeting were as follows:
There is no proposed benefit to Siskiyou County, while there are potential hazards or costs to the county. The benefit of the project is to reduce energy costs for PG&E and its customers. Siskiyou County residents purchase their power from Oregon’s Pacific Power, not PG&E. If the project is successful in increasing precipitation, the county could at a minimum incur increased snow precipitation, requiring more removal.
Siskiyou County approved this PG&E project in 2006 without requiring permit or environmental study. PG&E documentation and EIR reports from other projects were accepted by the Supervisors as enough information.
According the proponents of cloud seeding, cloud seeding with silver iodide has no harmful environmental effects. They also state they cannot confirm cloud seeding projects are even effective or controllable.
Silver Iodide is labeled a Class C, non-soluble, inorganic, hazardous chemical that pollutes water and soil by the Office of Environmental Health and Safety, UC Berkeley. Past cloud seeding projects have produced unexpected results including many deaths in the United States.
Course of Action
The course of action, as stated in the group’s meeting minutes, is as follows:
Write a generic letter requesting postponement of the project until CEQA study for the Pit-McCloud River Cloud Seeding Project is provided by PG&E. This letter is to be distributed to residents as a sample to submit to the Siskiyou County Board of Supervisors.
Circulate a petition to postpone the project until CEQA reports are provided to the public.
Encourage all concerned or confused citizens to call and or e-mail their representatives. They do not have to require CEQA unless we request it.
Next Meeting, the group has scheduled a follow-up community conversation on weather modification for this Wednesday,
Nov. 12 at 7:30 p.m. at the Flying Lotus, 315 Mt. Shasta Blvd., Mt. Shasta 926-0527. Additionally, on Nov. 21, Mark Oliver will present his film Voices Between the Mountains as a fundraiser to help defray the cost of legal fees.
Baby!!
WHAT IF WE GOT MARRIED ON FEBRUARY 14TH, 2009 IN CHILE!!
WILL YOU MARRY ME?
WHAT A FANTASTIC DAY!!
LOVE, JACK
Baby, is good Idea!!!!!
of course baby I accept!!!!!!
yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!
I love with all my heart.
Is fantastic!!!!!!!
I love you chanchitrucha!!!!!!
With all my heart, Novia Paloma Carola Trout.
On a cold blistering winters morning with the fog set in like the smoke from a George Burns cigar, making my client Rob Ostrander finger tips scream out “Oh God” let me make it threw the morning session..
My client Rob Ostrander, a past client for more than a couple of seasons, now living in the Bay Area with his sights set on retiring into his home he and his wife own in the town of Mt Shasta.
Right off the bat, a hook-up and a fight that warms the heart and makes one forget about anything above the tip of the fly rod.
Yea, I guess you could say, Rob was in his element…
At least I was warm!! (he-he) I share though….
Rob Ostander, the one you see in the big cranes known as heavy-lift equipment”, “derricks” or “big hooks”. These are the un-sung heroes that build America and make us better in the end. People like Rob and his work has set standards in construction that led to us becoming the envy of the world when it comes to high rises and safety in construction. A flawless record, that hopefully will be passed on to future generations.
Rob retires in the next 5 years and we made a promise to each other for a huge party for Rob’s retirement. A kind of let loose party if you know what I mean.
Rob gave up drinking for his job over 20 years ago and he certainly has been a proven model citizen, though he would of like to have been on the White House roof as a fly on the wall when Willie Nelson came to visit……….
(Just watch and laugh!)
Rob Ostrander – A true American Hero you never knew about.
So I would like to wager that the Siskiyou County Board of Supervisors that are not in agreement with the removal of the toxic Klamath dams haven’t been down or floated the river since before 1990
or possible never. They really have no comprehension at all of the magnitude and impact of what these dams are doing to the populations
of returning salmon, steelhead & trout. Living for today with no insight for the betterment of tomorrow is no way to Govern our county
and a river that has been abused mistreated and toxified by a defunct series of dams that don’t produce much energy.
THIS IS A FIGHT BY THE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR 2 LAKES –
IRON GATE AND COPCO.
Forget whether it’s right to save a salmon population in the wake
of the inevitable global warming.
I would like to see some younger, progressive thinking in the of Siskiyou County Board of Supervisors. You remember these were the characters that wanted to give land owners in Siskiyou County riparian rights on any navigable rivers and model our county after Modoc County in an apparent attempt to bring back episodes of HEE-HAW, their favorite show from the 1970’s.
(You lit another!! and fiftttt,… she was gone!)
I say, “tear down that wall” Salmon Communism is over folks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tear_down_this_wall
Walking on sunshine!
Ah, wading and fly fishing a nice edge on the Lower Klamath, what a great place!
Bergen, that has to be the nicest wild steelhead I’ve seen in a few years. It is great to a wild steelhead of this size, in recent years hatchery steelhead have been much bigger than wild steelhead, which makes this catch even more valuable.
Way to go Bergan!!
Like father – like son! What a fun adventure Phil and Bergen had on their adventures on the Lower Klamath.
Look at the kipe on that fish! (shoulders). Wow! gorgeous, healthy
and wild…
Bergen, CONGRATULATIONS YOU’RE THE SIZZLER OF THE WEEK AWARD WINNER!!
Now go out and become President some day! Way to go Daryl and Bergan.
That’ll work, fat guy for his size.
Great edge to fish, looks real fishy to me….
This time of year eggs and nymphs both work, it just depends on the day. Changing things often is our best bet.
I am “Ex-Streamly” happy to be going to Chile on Monday!! Not only of course to be with Carola, but to try out some these terrific streamer patterns I’ve been tying for the big rivers in Patagonia.
I also have tying lots of small midges for those sipping trout in the foam eddies of the Patagonian rivers.
Uncle Juan Carlos knows when he fishes his favorite places around Patagonia, if you have the right bugs you catch best fish.
I can’t wait to be down on the many rivers of Patagonia Chile, fly fishing with Uncle Juan Carlos!! See you soon man!
They love those patterns that resemble small trout minnows.
#1 most remembered words of 2008: FUNDAMENTAL & BAIL-OUT
#1 Classic Sizzler of 2008: Steven Cobert – Cobert Report.
http://www.colbertnation.com
6 PM ABC World News
6:30 PM Tie Bugs
7 PM BBC World NEWS
8 PM DAILY SHOW
8:30pm COBERT REPORT
9 PM LARRY KING LIVE
10 PM KTVU 2 San Francisco
11 PM BED – Dreams of a better world in the future.
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/larry.king.live/
http://www.ktvu.com/index.html
Lets go by and donate $100 dollars to the Siskiyou Humane Society, I just sold my Nissan Xterra and I always feel good about doing something for the animals in the world. Places like the Siskiyou Human Society really rely on donations in the form $$ or pet food.
Dotty had heard of my business and was obviously happy to see me.
(CHECK OUT THE SISKIYOU HUMANE SOCIETY BANNER ON THE TOP LEFT HAND SIDE OF THIS SITE)
Wow! That is one mighty fine meal! Are those ball park franks?…
I just heard from the Siskiyou Humane Society that after 6 months Dotty got adopted this week to a very nice family!!
That was the most fantastic news I’ve heard this week!! Maybe it’s the most fantastic news you’ve heard too this week my friend.
Warm chills and gratefulness –
Siskiyou Humane Society – http://www.siskiyouhumane.org
Maybe you could make someone’s else’s dreams come true if yours isn’t…jt
Tanish needs a good home people before Christmas.
Call Kim Latos – 530-926-4052 Shelter Manager
All right! We haven’t visited Belize in a while. Veterinarians Travis & Lynn from Redding California called me for another fly fishing – vacation trip with my guide Lloyd. This time of year Belize is a magical place with daily temps in the low to middle 80’s. Perfect!
We have a house located close to the beach and do tours out to the different reefs and atolls that are a 15 minute boat ride from shore.
Giligans Island?
CHECK OUT COMPLETE FLY FISHING FLY,GEAR AND EQUIPMENT LIST FOR ALL AREAS OF BELIZE
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WILSON!! WILLLLLLLL – SONNNNNNNNNNNN!! I’m just a castaway!
Did you know my sister M’lissa went to high school with Tom Hanks
at Skyline High School in the Bay Area. He had a huge afro in school and was of course a character in drama. It is always funny for me to see my sisters year book from 1974-75 and her picture that is right next to his.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6igd0_cast-away-best-scenes-the-movie_shortfilms
Back to Travis and Lynn out on their first day with Lloyd to an area he knows well…
A couple of cast and a small tarpon that fought as hard as any fish its size.
What a hoot, these fish are on a 7 wt fly rod.
Lloyd, I see you got the jacket I sent down!!
Another cast, another tarpon… “Yahoo!! Can I have a beer Lloyd?”
Then the rain came and the fishing got even better as the tarpon began splashing the surface, which added to the excitement!
There’s Robbie Nunez!! Every client loves Robbie, he’s Lloyd’s deckhand and future guide extraordinaire…
They then caught this really cool tarpon in need of a orthopedic surgeon. Terrible under bite, should give up the Copenhagen….<h>
Lynn enjoyed her time just kicking back reading and watching folks walking by on their way to their daily tasks. This is one great place that we offer.
That’s why folks come back year after year! Good price also helps…
Can you balance our budget?
Time to go for a ride through the village…
Catch ya later!
Classic!
We all like happy endings!!
What do you think about bringing all the troops home and just protecting our borders from terrorist attacks etc, kind of like fortifying big-time on the home front.
I think China is doing so well economically, it can be their turn to
save the world and stick their noses in everyone else’s business for the hidden agenda.
Back when it use to be about True Freedom and the American Dream, countries cherished the thoughts of how they could be more like us.
Whether it was the first automobile, rock n roll, the computer or the 1st person to the moon. We have shined our paths in the eyes of the world.
At this point, it is incredible hard for me to see anymore reasoning behind this massive search abroad, when we are leaving ourselves so wide open here at home, besides we just can’t afford it anymore.
The BUSH MIND-SET must leave before we can ever recover.
What in the hell are we still doing in Iraq and Afghanistan?
We need to have those troops home now protecting us here, we have debts throughout the world and I think we have to change our strategy
or we might suffer a challenge here at home in the future that only a few rocket scientist could fathom. Possible some other country just foreclosing on their debt.
If I have offended anyone out there, let me know! We must get out of the war business in the United States, ultimately, you’ll remember from high school, there’s always someone, stronger, meaner and richer.
I am glad to be leaving the Dark years of the Bush and Cheney administration, I have traveled most of my life and have never felt so un-welcomed in foreign countries because of these two people who were suppose to be representing our best interest. You can say what you want but that is the truth and you know it!
England has removed their last remaining troops in Iraq this week.
So wake up and smell the Peets coffee brewing, whether, it’s smaller cable bill, recycling religiously or shaving a point off your driving record to lower your insurance rates, Americans know – Now is the time to make the most important decisions you have ever made in your lives.
The one I just mentioned above must happen soon.
Sincerely, Jack Trout
PROUD AMERICAN
With age comes wisdom.
A guy is 60 years old and loves to fish.
He was sitting in his boat the other day when he heard a voice say,
‘Pick me up.’He looked around and couldn’t see any one. He thought
he was dreaming when he heard the voice say again,’Pick me up.’
He looked in the water and there, floating on the top, was a frog.
The man said, ‘Are you talking to me?’
The frog said, ‘Yes, I’m talking to you. Pick me up then, kiss me and I’ll turn into the most beautiful woman you have ever seen.
I’ll make sure that all your friends are envious and jealous because I will be your bride!’
The man looked at the frog for a short time, reached over, picked it up carefully, and placed it in his front breast pocket.
Then the frog said, ‘What, are you nuts? Didn’t you hear what I said? I said kiss me and I will be your beautiful bride.’
He opened his pocket, looked at the frog and said,
‘Nah, at my age I’d rather have a talking frog.’
With age comes wisdom.
By Dale Andreasen
Daily News
Wed Nov 26, 2008, 10:56 AM PST
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Yreka, Calif. –
Siskiyou County’s Board of Supervisors is saying not so fast on an agreement to tear down four Klamath River dams, including three located in the county, and is considering legal action to halt their removal.
Following a closed session during its Nov. 18 regular meeting, the supervisors issued a statement voicing concern and opposition to the agreement announced Nov. 13 between the federal government, states of California and Oregon, and PacificCorp.
The non-binding agreement calls for removal of the four hydroelectric dams on the Klamath River starting in 2020, following a four-year period of study.
In exchange for protection from liability, PacifiCorp will pay $200 million in dam removal costs. California will ask voters to approve a $250 million bond to cover additional costs.
The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service¡Ùs Yreka office required fish passage such as fish ladders to be installed as a condition of renewal of a permit to continue operating the dams. The cost of removing the dams is reportedly cheaper than installing fish passage.
The board of supervisors has consistently opposed both dam removal and the Klamath Basin Restoration Agreement reached last year by various stakeholders and environmental groups.
New county counsel Tom Guarino has been directed by the board to begin interviewing qualified attorneys with the goal of hiring a special counsel to assist him in assembling a team to oppose the removal of the dams. The complete text of the county supervisors statement follows:
STATEMENT OF THE COUNTY OF SISKIYOU
The County of Siskiyou wishes to express its concern with the recent Agreement in Principle (AIP) issued with respect to removing the Irongate Dam, the Copco 1 Dam, the Copco 2 Dam, and the J.C. Boyle Dam, and other works presently licensed to PacifiCorp.
While the County of Siskiyou is appreciative of the parties permitting the County to participate in the discussions, the Agreement that has been undertaken by the parties still leaves significant issues unaddressed, not the least of which is the fact that it does not clearly address the cost and impacts to the County of Siskiyou and its constituents, nor does it provide sufficient provisions for determining such impacts. Unanswered by the Agreement in Principle (AIP) are the specific studies that will be undertaken, the degree to which local entities such as Siskiyou County will be permitted to participate, and provisions which essentially allow PacifiCorp and other parties to avoid any liability arising from its ownership and operation of the facilities. Unexplained is the scope of liability for the Dam Removal Entity (DRE) envisioned by the Agreement. In fact, no local input is provided for with respect to who is going to remove these dams which have been such an essential and integral part of Siskiyou County for many years.
Siskiyou County does acknowledge that, under the Miscellaneous Provisions of the Agreement in Principle (AIP), it does state that the Final Agreement may address the economic impact of the facilities removal on Siskiyou County and may address the issues regarding the City of Yreka’s water supply, as well as other terms. However, these terms are not mandatorily required. The Board of Supervisors opposes the AIP and the process described therein. The County of Siskiyou is of the opinion that those matters addressed in its Resolution in April, 2008, opposing a Sense of Congress Resolution requiring dam removal remain unanswered and that the removal of the dams will be a crippling blow to the County of Siskiyou. The County remains opposed to the Klamath Basin Restoration Agreement. The Board of Supervisors directs County Counsel to issue Requests for Qualifications for special counsel to assist County Counsel as part of the Board¡Ùs intention to assemble a team to oppose the removal of the dams.
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Report Abuse We need better leadership from the board of supervisors! There are lots of us in the county that support removing these toxic-algae producing dams and our perspectives are being ignored by the sups in their desire to please a vocal group of who are afraid of change. Why let an old mind-set get in the way of real progress? Removing these dams would benefits the county in lots of ways – and would benefit the entire watershed including many more communities well beyond Siskiyou County. Are we so selfish and shortsighted that we would spoil this major restoration achievement for all of our friends, neighbors, and fellow Klamath River residents? Keep in mind these dams provide no flood control benefits, create toxic algae blooms, and greatly increase fish diseases – and the power could be easily replaced by lots of different sources – not just coal fired power plants. The facts speak for themselves and we deserve leadership that will speak for everyone and embrace a positive vision of the future.
I am really looking forward to guiding Foster Reed group, as well as Scott Miller and David Harker this month in Chile!!!
You can rest assure, I’ll be on top of my game for my 17th season
in the fly fishing’s final frontier, Patagonia Chile.
The rivers, the fly fishing, food and culture!!
Get ready folks for some great stories and adventures in 2009 in Patagonia, Chile.
Maybe I’ll see you down there finally? info@jacktrout.com
Dec 3rd 2008 –
Hi Jack,
Just wanted to send some gratitude
for the great time I had with you. I would also like to share a true story with you.
Back in the late 80’s I was having money jitters and a good friend of mine by the name of Bill Dean who in the late 70’s took me under his wing and taught me my profession that I have today.
We did a lot of things together, hunted deer, fished, went to flea markets and metal detected together.
I was always nervous about paying the bills and making enough money to play with. Bill gave me some insight about money. He pulled out his Harley Davidson wallet that he had tethered by a dog choke
chain to his belt, and pulled out a Ben Franklin note out and gave it to me.
He said that if I chose to keep it in my wallet that earnings will always come to me sometimes slow – sometimes quickly but it will always come. I still have that note in my wallet today.
I have had times when I was short and times when I have more than enough. I have never been broke as long as I have that note.
Take the enclosed note with friendship and may it work for you as it has for me.
Sincerely, Rob Ostrander
MERRRY CHRISTMAS & HAPPY NEW YEAR!!
EMAILS FROM YOU:
Merry Christmas Jack, Next December we will do Belize.
Love Missy and Patrick
There are 3 of us traveling 3 adults including 1 flyfisherman. Are there any
tours during Christmas week? Snowshoeing? Hiking or viewing sites?
Alison
I originally hoped to go to Chile with you this January, but I just changed
jobs in Nov. so a vacation is out of the question, and I am trying to buy a
house in the Spring.
Keep in touch though, perhaps next year.
DD
mate, we alredy passed trough pucon (beautiful,my first time there).we’ve been there just a couple of days ,and now we are in bariloche for another couple of days… but we are thinking rent a house in pucon for the next march-april….(a house with and extra room…you see….some friends may come…..)and climb the villlarrica vulcano,some rafting and maybe some friend can teach me how fly fishing goes…
but now we have all our energy put on chaiten . we look fowards to arrive there and see…
so by the end of this week we should be in chaiten . i’ll write you again from bariloche before we leave .
lots ,but lots of love.
salad. (cesar)
Jack,
Thanks for the phone messages yesterday–we are both extremely excited about being down there (on my way to school today my truck thermometer registered -5⁰! Glad to hear you found a good pub too!! See you in two weeks and am looking forward to seeing the itinerary. Take care.
Successful people have learned to make themselves do the thing that has to be done, whether they like it or not. Aduous Huxley
Scott Miller
Principal
Hillcrest High School
http://theflyfishingrabbi.blogspot.com/2008/01/fly-fishing-in-argentina–
in-december-my.html
Thought you might enjoy this read. This is an interesting website. Hope
you and your sweet lady have some happy holidays. I’ll talk to you in
the Spring and we’ll set up some more awesome trips.
Rick Schoen
Hi Jack,
Our first genuinely cold and blustery day, a day out of Pto Arenas and a day before
Chacabuco…
…did you get an email from me the other day ?
Ideally I’d like to do as much fishing on foot as possible, swinging through runs,
floating to the next pool – maybe a pretty short float. Off the vessel at 8:15, back at
4:45.
regards, Foster